It’s been a rough couple of weeks for Pac-12 teams in the Bay Area. California has lost three straight and four of five. Stanford has also dropped three straight. Both schools are coming off home losses (Utah and Colorado), and both need a course correction to avoid problems on Selection Sunday.
Stanford’s win at Connecticut is worth mentioning first, and perhaps puts the Cardinal a tiny bit ahead of Cal at this juncture. As for the rest of its resume? Stanford is 6-10 vs. Top 100 RPI teams and has a losing record (9-11) against the Top 150. When you factor in the three-game skid – which included missed opportunities against Arizona and Arizona State – there’s reason for concern. Other than the win at UConn, Stanford’s best non-conference victory is either Northwestern or Denver.
California has its home win over Arizona. Impressive as that is, the Bears are 6-11 vs. the RPI Top 100 and two of those wins are against Washington (No. 95 as of this morning – March 8). Outside the league, they beat Arkansas in Maui and also beat Denver. Having played a couple more Top 150 games, Cal is 11-11 by comparison. During its three-game slide, Cal also missed opportunities against Arizona and Arizona State.
Safe to say, both the Bears and Cardinal have work to do at the Pac-12 tournament. Read more…
A month ago, Pittsburgh was a no-doubt NCAA Tournament team. The Panthers had battled Cincinnati, Syracuse, and Virginia to the final seconds in close losses. Their efficiency numbers suggested a team that could win in March. All they needed was a couple of notable victories to validate their position. The problem: those victories have yet to materialize.
Bubble Banter – Update
Instead, less than two weeks before Selection Sunday, we find a Pittsburgh resume with only one victory against a projected NCAA team: Stanford (in November). Since then, the Panthers have managed four Top 100 RPI wins: Maryland (twice), Clemson, and NC State. And Monday night, the Wolfpack returned the favor by beating Pitt on its home floor. So where does this leave the Panthers? As a team with some work to do between now and March 16. The one thing helping Pitt beyond those close losses is the absence of any bad losses (to sub-100 RPI teams). Will that hold up if the Panthers take an early exit from the ACC Tournament? Read more…
Update: Bubble Banter has been updated through Thursday, March 3. It’s somewhat hard to believe, but there about 11 spots still open in the bracket as we move into Championship Week. Fortunately, we have pared down the bubble some. We now have 11 spots open with 28 teams in contention.
March 4 Bubble Banter – New Update | 6:15 a.m. March 4
Will we add a few teams before or during Championship Week? I would expect it – especially given the nature of college hoops this season. As weak as the bubble is, it’s not a great challenge to work your way into consideration.
Outside Ohio State, Purdue and Wisconsin, the Big Ten remains highly unsettled. Illinois, Michigan State, Michigan, and Penn State are trying to hold on or play their way in. In the Big 12, Baylor and Colorado could go either way. And in the Pac-10, Washington and Washington State remain question marks. The ACC is equally uncertain with Boston College and Clemson right on the cutline. Florida State and Virginia Tech are in front of them, but need to avoid a letdown this next week. In the SEC, the bubble teams are Georgia and Alabama.
Have an opinion? Send a rebound. Bring some data. Enjoy the hoops and the conversation. March Madness is almost here.
It’s finally here. Selection Sunday. One wild ride ends and another is about to begin. Here are some quick takes as we enter the day, and some thoughts on the tight bubble picture …
- Mississippi State is the only wildcard left. They have to win to get in. The final bubble team – whomever that is – will be rooting hard for Rocky Top Tennessee today.
- Akron (MAC), Morgan State (MEAC), Alabama State (SWAC), Cal-Northridge (Big West), Temple (Atlantic 10), and Utah State (WAC) all locked up automatic bids. Utah State’s victory relieves some real pressure on the Committee to make a tough decision with the Aggies.
- Louisville locked up a No. 1 seed by winning the Big East tourney and Big East regular season titles. Indianapolis or Memphis? That’ll be a subjective call for the Committee.
- Southern Cal took an at-large spot after a stirring rally to beat Arizona State. That spot may very well have belonged to Arizona.
- I won’t be shocked if Memphis is a No. 1 seed in the West, but clearly the body of work favors Connecticut. The only real argument is whether you believe the loss of Jerome Dyson has hindered the Huskies to a point they are no longer the same team.
What about the Bubble? How do you decide among Creighton, St. Mary’s, San Diego State, Penn State, Maryland, Wisconsin, Dayton, Arizona, and Auburn? It comes down to what each individual person values most. What’s most important?
- Road wins? Eliminate Arizona, Maryland, and perhaps Wisconsin
- Quality wins? Favors Penn State, Arizona, Maryland (Top 50)
- Schedule strength? Favors Wisconsin and Arizona
- Last 12 games? Favors Creighton (11-1), San Diego State (8-4), Auburn (9-3)
- In-conference SOS? Favors Maryland (9), Auburn (33), Wisconsin (47)
- Adjusted Scoring Margin? Favors San Diego State (9.5), Auburn (8.8). Creighton (8.5)
- Number of sub-100 wins? Hurts Dayton (18), Penn State (15), St. Mary’s (21), Creighton (17), Auburn (15)
- Consistency? Favors Creighton, St.Mary’s, Dayton
That’s how cloudy it is. And it might simply come down to an “eye test.” Who do you think is better? Nothing is more subjective than that. Our final bracket will reflect how we view it, not necessarily what we think the Committee will do. – Dave the Bracketguy.
A wild evening is under way on Selection Saturday …
Updates … Temple wins the automatic bid from the Atlantic 10 (7:45 p.m.) | Southern Cal wins the Pac-10 automatic bid and bursts another bubble (8:15 p.m). Missouri beats Baylor to end the Bears hopes (8:17 p.m). | Utah edged San Diego State in the Mountain West title game (9:04 p.m.).
In and Out … Arizona and San Diego State are “out” pending a final review and analysis. Creighton, Penn State, Maryland, Dayton, and Wisconsin are very nervous. It’s looking worse for St. Mary’s, Utah State if it loses the WAC title game and Auburn after a late run. Mississippi State is the wildcard in the SEC.
Here are some quick notes from the afternoon …
- Michigan State likely gave up its No. 1 seed aspirations while losing to Ohio State in the Big 10 semis. But hey, wouldn’t they rather be a potential No. 2 in the Midwest than No. 1 out West?
- Meanwhile, Ohio State likely moved above the 8-9 game.
- Maryland has 23 hours to worry after a loss to Duke.
- The Blue Devils wrapped up a No. 2 seed and will begin NCAA play in Greensboro.
- North Carolina will still be a No. 1 seed (likely No. 1 overall) even after losing to Florida State. Remember, they rested Ty Lawson and his toe.
- For Florida State, the win means a likely No. 4 seed in Miami.
- Binghamton wrapped up its first-ever NCAA bid by taking out UMBC in the America East final.
- Mississippi State is making someone very nervous until about 3:00 p.m. tomorrow – following the SEC title game. If the Bulldogs upset Tennessee, nervousness turns to NIT.
- Memphis made it’s case for a No. 1 seed, clobbering Tulsa in the C-USA Championship, finishing 31-3. If they make it, they’d arguablly be the least accomplished team (in terms of quality wins) to earn a top seed (1-2 vs. Top 25 teams). That’s not a knock on the Tigers, who could easily make a run to Detroit.
More to come later as evening championships conclude – Dave the Bracketguy.
Mid-afternoon and bubble teams everywhere are getting more nervous by the minute. At least one of the teams currently in our projected field will leave once the Atlantic 10 final is complete. Another could yet be stolen in the SEC (Mississippi State beat LSU to advance to the championship). There’s also USC in the Pac 10. Memphis clobbered Tulsa to eliminate the Golden Hurricanes. Congratulations to Binghamton – winners of the America East conference – on their first ever NCAA bid.
The latest Bracket Projection (3/14) is now posted in Bracketology. It was posted at 3:10 p.m. (ET). I may try to provide an update early Sunday before posting my final bracket late afternoon. Update … You may see a couple of potential rematches in the first two rounds. The Committee tries to avoid this, but it’s not a hard-and-fast rule. Some of this will fix itself come Sunday. Conference conflicts in the Big 10 have created havoc with so many teams bunched on the S-curve.
Some tweaking will occur as final profiles are available. It will be easier to more thoroughly evalute seed lines and build the bracket. More quick hitters to come in Around the Rim (ATR) as the day progresses. As always … Send a Rebound – Dave the Bracketguy.
Friday the 13th provided all sorts of bad – and potentially worse – news for teams on the 2009 NCAA Tournament bubble. As of early Saturday morning, theses are nervous times for bubble teams here at Around the Rim (ATR). Our next projected bracket (March 14) will be out today. As a quick note … the Conference Tourney page and Schedule page are updated through Friday’s games.
Who should be nervous? Several teams from the Big 10 and ACC, Creighton, Arizona, any SEC team not named LSU or Tennessee, Dayton, St. Mary’s, Texas A&M, New Mexico, and Utah State if the Aggies don’t win the Big West. Following is a quick take on the updated bubble picture … Read more…